someone asked for a second source on this, so i'm putting this out there to those who may have visited the new wt hq lately and know it to be true.
i had read from others on the ex-jw subreddit that had taken a tour recently at wt hq, that they had been shown photos of a mountain in china, and told that this is where all of the granite is being mined from and shipped over to new york to use at the site of the new wt hq.
apparently, it was cheaper for them to do this and have the local brothers in china mine it, then having to by tons upon tons of granite here in the usa, even wholesale.
All very interesting BUT
First of all WT is not banned in China.
The religion is not APPROVED but that is very different.
WT has established Global Purchasing there, and has many NY bethelites assigned under visas issued via WT.
China is not concerned about WT. if they do business there, that is fine , they are small beer. They are more concerned about Falun Gong for example with more than 300 million followers.
Please keep things in perspective.
Stanley
the sunday programme investigates allegations that the jehovah's witness ordered the destruction of documents that could be used during the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse.
was this in contravention of section 21 of the inquiries act 2005 which is punishable by imprisonment?.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0709v34.
Data protection act - Denmark incident.
i believe that some years ago individuals broke-in to the Danish Bethel and accessed JC files. Information was revealed to the media and caused a big reaction.
i understand that subsequently WT issued instructions to not record details of incidents , and to simply highlight a Bible verse that related to the case.
Any more info ?
Stanley
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it is still strange, that an organization, lead by a group of old timers, is gaining billions at the moment, without giving any transparency and accountancy feedback, because these men "trust each other", and come away with that.. they got the property investment by the use of cohi associates, and deposit their liquid assets at the caymans.. it is clear: the real power behind the jw.org facade is securing his future.. don't get me wrong, i'm not insane, but more and more i got this strong gut feeling that some governmental organization has the real power.. gorby.
NZ sale
Do you have any details of the sale ? Dates, US$ amount etc
Stanley T
it seems that the new policy to transfer all kh ownership to wt gives the wt control of the assets as well as capacity to re-jig, consolidate etc.
it will put a lot of money on the consolidated balance sheet.
which they could also borrow against if they choose to, particularly with the 'pledge' system that was presented by resolution.
It seems that the new policy to transfer all KH ownership to WT gives the WT control of the assets as well as capacity to re-jig, consolidate etc. It will put a lot of money on the consolidated balance sheet. Which they could also borrow against if they choose to, particularly with the 'pledge' system that was presented by resolution. This in theory could create a colossal cash fund, average witnesses would know nothing about it...
Just imagine.. if there is a massive falling away ( either natural or provoked by teaching adjustments etc) as the system existed WT had no stake in all of the KH properties. Now they have them all under their control. If a congregation disappears... the asset is with WT.
I know of a cases were the CO has re-structured a number of congregations and in the process has eliminated a KH in a very functional and central location.The KH has been owned outright for many years. The two congs that used it have been re-aasigned to other KH's about 5 miles away. The KH is now up for sale for 200K.
In another cong they made a resolution to convert their 110,000 loan to WT, they made it an outright donation , and added another 10,000 !
Have you heard many more of these cases ?
I have seen on this site a copy of the official Spanish bethel letter that outlined the KH policy. Does anybody have the US , UK , France, Germany or other letters ?
The figures involved in this are astronomical . I think WT might be shooting themselves in the foot with this as it could attract a lot of media attention and criticism. It is a different level of exposure to move from having a few billion in assets (bethels etc) that you have accumulated over 100 years to shift to having billions in cash in the bank .The sale of the closed bethel homes , the eventual liquidation of Brooklyn, and now the KH's. Charity status could be questioned when you have so much cash but in quantifiable terms give so little in economic support.Any other thoughts ?
Stanley Theater
according to the letter (link below) out of 705 kingdom halls in spain, 295 are being disposed of.. if someone can translate german/spanish, it would throw some light on the specifics.. http://www.bruderinfo-aktuell.de/index.php/brief-zum-koenigreichssaalbauprogramm-in-spanien/#more-948.
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Does anybody have the corresponding WT laters for the KH program in the US , UK and any other countries ?
according to the letter (link below) out of 705 kingdom halls in spain, 295 are being disposed of.. if someone can translate german/spanish, it would throw some light on the specifics.. http://www.bruderinfo-aktuell.de/index.php/brief-zum-koenigreichssaalbauprogramm-in-spanien/#more-948.
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Could you please post again the letter about the KH sell off. Thanks.
Are there corresponding letters for the U.S. , UK and other countries ? If available please post also.
I am curious to get a sense of how many properties could be involved.
